People are saying...
“Firstly I wanted to say, YAY Hvngry is back! I've been reading for awhile and I thought you guys might be stopping but glad you're back! Secondly this was a good piece, I've never seen this show, but I'm definitely going to check it out now! Thirdly though, I just wanted to ask about this 'nice guy scenario'. To be honest I'm pretty confused about the whole thing. Don't we want guys to be nice? Don't we want a boy to be considered a friend before we would trust them enough to sleep with them or enter into a relationship with them? Maybe I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic (took me a whole year to ask out my current girlfriend), but I really don't believe the friend zone exists, aren't there just good friends that we love without any sexual involvement?
Wednesday May 7 2014, 11:10 PM
“There is this idea out there (there often being the internet world) that 'girls never go for nice guys' and these "nice guys" often complain that girls should date them because they will treat them right and they are always there for them. But a girl does not OWE a guy a date because she cried on his shoulder, or he held a door open for her. If she doesn't want to date him this does not make her a *cringe* bitch. Because sometimes you kinda just know that you don't want to date a person. It is often these scorned men who claim to be in the mythical "friend zone". I think in that sense you are agreeing with the ideas presented in the article that these men should not expect anything but mutual friendship from the relationship. The idea of a nice guy is different from a person who is actually nice.....what did I just type? Anyway that is the situation as far as I know it, maybe Julia or Elsie have some thoughts on it?
Friday May 9 2014, 06:44 PM
“Have any of you guys watched a show called Happy Endings? It's another show that I think defies character/race/sexuality stereotypes. Absolutely hilarious and I also think underrated.
Friday May 9 2014, 06:50 PM
“Happy Endings is one of my favourite TV shows of all time! I especially love the way it takes TV archetypes - the perpetually single lady, the dumb blonde, the uptight clean freak, the gay best friend - and turns them on their head in completely hilarious ways. Really enjoying seeing great discussion of television on HVNGRY - remember, "reading's stupid, TV rules!"
Saturday May 10 2014, 11:20 PM
“I totally agree that guys should be nice. I fact, I think that everyone should be nice. And it's great when friendships turn into romances, although I think there are lots of paths that can lead to positive romantic and/or sexual experiences. The problem we were trying to talk about in this article is the idea (as Maddy said) of the 'nice guy', where men believe that they are entitled to sex/relationships because they are nice to women. Like, that women are vending machines where you put enough nice in and sex comes out. It's not a healthy way to build relationships, and it's pretty demeaning to women -- no matter how nice you are, you never 'deserve' sex for that niceness. I was definitely concerned that Brooklyn 99 was heading towards this idea: that Charles just had to be persistent enough and hand over enough 'nice' coins and Rosa would finally capitulate. I though it was great that Charles learnt that hasseling a woman sho wasn't into him is not a good way to act, and learned to value her friendship as a person rather than as a way to get into her pants.
Monday May 12 2014, 10:18 AM